Lucid Install, I think it's a graphics card problem, but not sure.. help?

[Rasa1111]

Hey all,
Hey Irihapeti~ lol

I know the last thing anyone wants/or needs at the moment is another thread needing help....
and I do apologize for starting yet another new thread, seeking help
on the day of a new release, when there are already tons of people seeking help,
but my problem was on the verge of hijacking a thread,
and the kind Soul of Irihapeti suggested that I do make a thread, so here I am, ....
Thanks man, hope you see my thread! lol

i agree, it does sound like a graphics card problem, but i really dont know much about that, so......


My problem,

I have gone through 4 discs now, and all the discs check out fine....
no problem with the discs I am now quite sure....

I start my machine, and all goes well for a brief time....

It boots and loads up, and the pretty screen comes up,
Then I have the option to either ..
"Try 10.04 without any changes"
or
"Install 10.04 LTS"

I choose "try w/out changes" ,
and the screen to "choose your language" comes up,
I choose it, ... machine acts like its going to progress....

then, 1 of 2 things have been happening...

1) Screen goes black, and into 'power saving mode', (no signal to monitor)....
and no matter how long it sits, it progresses no further.

or 2) after choosing my language, the screen goes black
(but with power to it~ /backlit black).. and starts flashing white/grey vertical lines at me,
but only on the top half of the monitor.....
and this is what it continues doing, and doing, and doing... no progression after that.

I have been asked to post the output of this

sudo lspci -vv -nn

here, so this is what I have... (sorry it's long)

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface [8086:2560] (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort+ <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
    Capabilities: [e4] Vendor Specific Information <?>
    Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
    Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
    Region 0: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
    Region 1: Memory at ee000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
    Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: i915
    Kernel modules: i915

00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
    Region 4: I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
    Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 19
    Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
    Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 18
    Region 4: I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
    Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 02) (prog-if 20)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 23
    Region 0: Memory at ee080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
    Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 82)
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort+ <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
    I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
    Memory behind bridge: ec000000-edffffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 40000000-400fffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort+ <MAbort- <SERR- <PERR-
    BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
        PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24c0] (rev 02)
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt, intel-rng

00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [8086:24cb] (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
    Region 0: I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
    Region 1: I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
    Region 2: I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
    Region 3: I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
    Region 4: I/O ports at f000 [size=16]
    Region 5: Memory at 40100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
    Kernel driver in use: ata_piix

00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller [8086:24c3] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 11
    Region 4: I/O ports at 0500 [size=32]
    Kernel modules: i2c-i801

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0147]
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0
    Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 17
    Region 0: I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
    Region 1: I/O ports at e400 [size=64]
    Region 2: Memory at ee081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
    Region 3: Memory at ee082000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
    Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
    Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0

01:06.0 Modem [0703]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4212 v.90 56k modem [14e4:4212] (rev 02)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0001]
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort+ <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 32
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
    Region 0: Memory at ed002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
    Region 1: I/O ports at c000 [size=16]
    Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=55mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: serial

01:09.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T [14e4:4401] (rev 01)
    Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:8127]
    Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort+ <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 32
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
    Region 0: Memory at ed000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
    [virtual] Expansion ROM at 40000000 [disabled] [size=16K]
    Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
        Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
        Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: b44
    Kernel modules: b44

can anyone help a brother out?

I mean, really I am just trying to 'test drive' 10.04, and see if it is going to work as well as my karmic does, and I see all the people posting how amazing it is, and I cant even check it out. lol

I do love Karmic Koala ,
( it runs flawlessly on my box)
but would like to learn how to take care of this, if possible.

many thanks.

rasa
<3

[Irihapeti]

Yes, I think you may be right about it being a graphics card problem. I think you may have the same problem that I did on my beat-up old Toshiba Satellite A10.

So, here is what should work:

At the very first screen, the one with just the rectangle (it's meant to be a keyboard) and a human figure, press any key - spacebar will do.

Then choose your language.

Then make sure you have "Try Ubuntu without any changes" selected, and then press F6

Add this to the end of the command line:

i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa

Then press enter and it should boot successfully.

Now, mine is a slightly different graphics chip from yours, so we'll just have to see what happens.

[Rasa1111]

ahh thank you bro.
yeah, my box is rather "old" next to most today. lol

Dell Dimension 2350
2.3 GHz CPU
1 GB Ram

Im going to try it out now, Ill post back shortly. Thanks again man,
much appreciated!
Praises.
Rasa

[Shigoki-linux]

ya. same thing is happening to me. but i just only get a blank screen. it comes up, and after waiting like 15 seconds, blank screen, monitor go to sleep. i hope this is just a bug that will be sorted out asap.

[Rasa1111]

Wow!

That worked!!
Amazing, man!! lol

Thank you!!

(posting this from Lucid Lynx now.. BIG lucid lynx).. lol

only issue i see now is.....
well,.... It is not detecting my monitors resolution...
everything is just really BIG! lol

Ive attached a few screenshots to show.

I went into "monitors" , and for some reason I cant select anything,
and I cant change the resolution from anything but 640x480.

Is this just because Im running from the CD?
I dont remember Karmic doing this from the CD though.

What do you think is the problem?

I cant believe that worked so well though!
that's awesome.

you rock Irihapeti!

[Irihapeti]

Hey, this is great news!

There have been some changes since Karmic. I also was able to boot Karmic with no immediate problems, but there were some lockups later on that weren't fun.

I'm not quite sure why it's running in low graphics mode (640x480) but I would guess that you have a monitor that's widescreen i.e. not the old 4:3 ratio. My EeePC with a wide screen did something similar.

You probably have a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf Can you post the contents of that?

Meanwhile I see what I can find about fixing this.

[Rasa1111]

Great news indeed, friend!

You probably have a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf Can you post the contents of that?

sure I would love to...
but my n00bness is preventing me from finding it.....

Ive used the "search for files" under apps/accessories...
but it didnt find it.

Do you know of an easy way for me to find said file? or its contents?
through terminal maybe?

my monitors normal resolution is 1024 x 768.

I am looking through google and its given links, and find some similar probs, but no solutions.... yet.. like this link... http://guide.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1352344

thank you again.
your time and help is greatly appreciated!
may the karma return to you mate. <3

[Irihapeti]

Well, 1024x768 is the same as my old Toshiba, and it's the old 4:3 ratio, not widescreen, so I don't know why it isn't working.

You could see if that setting exists in System -> Preferences -> Monitors

To get the contents of that file easily, in a terminal type:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

[Rasa1111]

niice, thanks.

here is the contents from terminal...

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Monitor "Configured Monitor"
Device "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

i don't get it... lol

but as an added note of positivity...
even in low graphics mode....
I am impressed! lol



Praises

[Irihapeti]

That's exactly the same as I have, so that's fine.

Now for some fun stuff. This is an experiment, so I want to take it carefully, and if anyone else watching this thread is better informed, please speak up.

First of all, let's back up that xorg.conf file, because we are going to play with it and we want a fallback in case it all turns to custard.

In a terminal:

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak

And again in a terminal:

xrandr

and

cvt 1024 768